{"id":12627,"date":"2025-10-01T10:57:29","date_gmt":"2025-10-01T09:57:29","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mspglobal.com\/blog\/?p=12627"},"modified":"2025-10-10T15:12:43","modified_gmt":"2025-10-10T14:12:43","slug":"nables-ben-lee-makes-sense-of-copilot-for-msps","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mspglobal.com\/blog\/nables-ben-lee-makes-sense-of-copilot-for-msps\/","title":{"rendered":"Flying blind with Copilot? N-able\u2019s Ben Lee makes sense of it for MSPs"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Ben Lee has spent years helping MSPs turn complex technology into practical, profitable solutions. As a Head Nerd at N\u2011able, he\u2019s seen the AI hype cycle up close, and knows that when it comes to Microsoft 365 Copilot, clarity beats buzzwords every time.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>At MSP GLOBAL 2025, Ben will strip away the noise to show MSPs exactly what Copilot is (and isn\u2019t), where it can genuinely add value, and the pitfalls to avoid when rolling it out. His focus is on giving MSPs the insight to make smart, confident decisions, whether that\u2019s advising customers on adoption or shaping their own internal Copilot strategy. Expect a grounded, hands\u2011on perspective that balances opportunity with risk awareness.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ahead of his session, we sat down with Ben to talk about how MSPs can cut through the Copilot hype, identify where it truly fits into their service offering, and use it to drive value for both their business and their clients. 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And inside those variants, there are what I like to call different personalities.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Then there is the free functionality, which you get either as a public user or if you have an EntraID account, which has some security guardrails and protections. And then there is the full paid-for Microsoft 365 Copilot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One of the challenges I see is people understanding the differences in functionality and capability across those different versions. We&#8217;re in a hype cycle for AI and GenAI solutions at the moment. The misunderstanding is that these solutions will do everything for you and they&#8217;ll solve all your problems.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In my previous life, I was an IT consultant and I did work around Copilot deployments and onboarding. One of my golden rules was to make sure you&#8217;re setting expectations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-large-font-size cfs-article-heading\" id=\"copilot-is-developing-fast-and-so-are-its-use-cases-for-msps\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:600;line-height:1.3\">Copilot is developing fast\u2014and so are its use cases for MSPs<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>Copilot is a fast-evolving product. In the last two months Microsoft have added Copilot Notebooks, which is a functionality where you curate sources or data. Then when you ask it questions, either about something new or about the data, it will filter it through that information.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A nice use case for this for an MSP would be helping with the output of a ticket. Maybe there was a disk failure or a driver issue. Copilot Notebooks can hold old ticket responses as a reference. 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It has access to your team&#8217;s conversations, your email, the files that you are working on, whereas the free one is more \u201cfind me some information from the web\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>MSPs need to understand the difference between those licenses and make sure that there is value in the paid-for license. There usually is, but it&#8217;s a case of identifying the use cases. How is this going to help you day to day? What can it do for you? Where can it make your life easier? Where does it not work? Where should you not use it?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-large-font-size cfs-article-heading\" id=\"it-s-about-permissions-not-access\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:600;line-height:1.3\">It\u2019s about permissions, not access<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s this notion that by deploying Copilot, suddenly you&#8217;re giving employees access to data that they maybe shouldn&#8217;t have access to or didn&#8217;t have access to before. That&#8217;s a slight misnomer because the issue is Copilot can see all of the data that you have <em>permission<\/em> to see.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Copilot doesn&#8217;t change your access rights or your permissions, but instead makes it easier to find stuff that you maybe couldn&#8217;t manually find yourself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The root issue is that a lot of organisations have SharePoint libraries, which are set to share to all people in the business, and permissions have never been rescinded when it&#8217;s appropriate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From a technical readiness point of view, it\u2019s making sure that the business is aware that there are risks of data being exposed to those with legacy permissions. Microsoft provides tooling that can help explore that and understand it. It\u2019s a case of understanding and minimizing the risk.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Copilot&#039;s different personalities and how to talk to them, with N-able&#039;s Ben Lee\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/tfhUakg_dxY?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-large-font-size cfs-article-heading\" id=\"context-is-king\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:600;line-height:1.3\">Context is king<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>There are different flavors of Copilot, and also different personalities of Copilot. That&#8217;s something that is very easy to overlook. When you ask Copilot in Word to do something, it is different to asking Copilot in your web browser to do something, or Copilot in Teams to do something, because each one is tuned to the context in which you are using them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We will end up with an overarching Copilot that you talk to that knows how to interact inward in PowerPoint and Excel and so on. But today, it has different personalities. They are tuned for job-specific roles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>You need to have a broader understanding of which Copilot is suitable for which job, and then take the data between those things to accomplish your task. One of the analogies I&#8217;ve seen is that you&#8217;re a conductor of the orchestra and the different Copilot agents are the different pieces of the orchestra, and you&#8217;re pulling the strings to get the end result that you want.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading has-large-font-size cfs-article-heading\" id=\"dont-just-turn-it-on-and-see\" style=\"font-style:normal;font-weight:600;line-height:1.3\">Don\u2019t just \u201cturn it on and see\u201d<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>We&#8217;ve had history in the industry with things like Microsoft Delve. There was this notion that a Delve page showed you all of this stuff your colleagues had been working on. But the fundamental issue wasn&#8217;t that the data was suddenly exposed to you, it&#8217;s just that there was a portal that showed you data you could access. It&#8217;s a similar thing with Copilot.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Understand what the risks might be for client data that is in their environment. 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